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         <title>Shifts in Vote and Turnout in New Jersey and Virginia</title>
         <author>charles&#64;politicalarithmetik&#46;com (Charles Franklin)</author>
         <description>by Charles Franklin<![CDATA[<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/vaarrowvote.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/vaarrowvote.php','popup','width=768,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/vaarrowvote-thumb-600x600.png" width="600" height="600" alt="vaarrowvote.png" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;" /></a></span></p>

<p>The shifts in outcomes between the 2008 presidential and 2009 gubernatorial elections in New Jersey and Virginia were driven far more by shifts in voting preferences among groups than by changes in turnout across those groups. Only age groups show consistently substantial changes in relative share of the electorate. Vote preference, in comparison, shows quite large shifts between election years. While one narrative of the 2009 election was changing turnout motivation, this turns out to be substantially false. Instead, changes in candidate preference drove the Republican wins in both New Jersey and Virginia. </p>

<p>The chart above shows the direction and size of change in vote preference for nine categories and 27 groups measured by exit polls in both years. The arrows start at the 2008 vote and point to the 2009 vote. The length of the arrow shows the amount of change and the arrow shows the direction of change. The colors code the shift in majority vote from 2008 to 2009. Blue indicates a Democratic majority for the group in both years. Red represents a Republican majority both years. Purple shows the groups that switched from a Democratic majority in 2008 to a Republican majority in 2009. None of the 27 groups switched from Republican to Democratic majorities. </p>

<p>In Virginia, large shifts in preference came among 18-29 year olds, those without a college degree, independents, rural voters and males. Smaller but still interesting changes came among lower and middle income voters, both of which shifted from majority Dem to majority Rep. </p>

<p>The most talked about shifts are among partisans and ideological groups.  The large 16 point shift from 49 to 33 percent Dem among independents has justifiably received a lot of attention. But perhaps as interesting is the similarity of partisan loyalty among Dems and Reps. Neither shifted by enough to make the length of the arrow stand out. Virginia Democrats actually increased their Dem support by a point, while Republicans came home by a small 4 percentage points more than in 2008.  Clearly the independents drove the dynamics of the outcomes. </p>

<p>Among conservatives, there was a modest shift of 9 points more Republican support in 2009, and a 5 point shift among moderates. Liberals moved a single point more Democratic. </p>

<p>By contrast, the shifts in share of the electorate were quite modest, as seen below.</p>

<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/vaarrowshare.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/vaarrowshare.php','popup','width=768,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/vaarrowshare-thumb-600x600.png" width="600" height="600" alt="vaarrowshare.png" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;" /></a></span></p>

<p>By far the largest shifts are among the various age groups. The 18-29 year olds dropped 11 points, from 21 to 10 percent of the electorate. Those 30-44 also declined a bit, from 30 to 24 percent.  These were matched by gains of 9 points among 45-64 year olds and of 7 points among those 65 and older.  Age is one of the most potent predictors of turnout, and as this chart shows, one of the most dynamic from 2008-09. </p>

<p>The other two groups with interesting shifts are the rise in share of the electorate among conservatives (up from 33 to 40 percent of voters) and the similar decline in turnout among Democrats, from 39 to 33 percent.</p>

<p>Not only are these shifts substantial, but they also stand out against the very modest shifts in share of the electorate for all other groups. Many of the arrows have invisible lengths, indicating very small changes of one or two percent. </p>

<p>In New Jersey, we also see large preference shifts and even smaller turnout shifts.</p>

<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/njarrowvote.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/njarrowvote.php','popup','width=768,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/njarrowvote-thumb-600x600.png" width="600" height="600" alt="njarrowvote.png" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;" /></a></span></p>

<p>The giant preference change in New Jersey is among independents, the same as Virginia. NJ independents took a massive 21 point shift from 51 percent for Obama to just 30 percent for Corzine. Also as in Virginia, Republicans came home to their party a bit, from a 14 percent defection rate for Obama to just 8 percent defection to Corzine.  Democrats meanwhile barely budge, down from 89 to 86 percent Dem. </p>

<p>There were other substantial movements in vote preference, among 30-44 year olds, moderates, whites, hispanics and males. In short, many groups in New Jersey made substantial movements away from Democratic votes.</p>

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By contrast, the makeup of the New Jersey electorate changed a bit among age groups but hardly at all for virtually all other groups. </p>

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<p>As with Virginia, there were declines in share of the electorate among 18-29 and 30-44 year olds and compensating increases among those 45 and above.  </p>

<p>No other group comes close to such large changes in size. Several change by exactly zero (the open circles in the chart) and most others have lengths too small to see in the plot. The nearest exceptions are a decline of moderates of five percent and a corresponding five point rise among conservatives. </p>

<p>The bottom line for both states is that turnout changes were mostly about the age structure of the electorate. Younger voters are more responsive to short term stimulation, and in 2008 that translated to relatively large turnout, while in the absence of that stimulus in 2009 the more stable commitment to voting among those over 45 advantaged that group. </p>

<p>The shifts in preference in both states were significantly larger for many more groups. Preferences are driven by candidates and issues and those were the primary drivers of the change in outcomes from 2008 to 2009.</p>

<p>Below are alternative looks at the data, comparing the share and the vote for each state. These give a better look at the entire set of groups, but it is harder to compare magnitude of changes along the diagonal line in these charts than in the arrow plots above.</p>

<p>600<span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/VA0809Vote.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/VA0809Vote.php','popup','width=768,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/VA0809Vote-thumb-600x600.png" width="600" height="600" alt="VA0809Vote.png" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;" /></a></span></p>

<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/VA0809Share.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/VA0809Share.php','popup','width=768,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/VA0809Share-thumb-600x600.png" width="600" height="600" alt="VA0809Share.png" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;" /></a></span></p>

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         <title>Election Night Recap, NJ and NY23</title>
         <author>charles&#64;politicalarithmetik&#46;com (Charles Franklin)</author>
         <description>by Charles Franklin<![CDATA[<span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NJ05to09b.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NJ05to09b.php','popup','width=768,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NJ05to09b-thumb-600x600.png" width="600" height="600" alt="NJ05to09b.png" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;" /></a></span>

<p>I'm headed to bed but here are a couple of snapshots of election night.</p>

<p>First, above, New Jersey then and now. Whatever else you say about the race, Corzine lost support across all regions of the state and by relatively constant amounts. This "uniform swing" shows that he didn't just lose in Rep areas, or Dem areas, or urban centers. The decline in Corzine support was very widespread and quite even. An across the board loss.</p><p><br /></p><p>In NY23, Hoffman generally outperformed McCain's vote in 2008, but not by enough to take the race. These are based on 87% of precincts reporting, so not quite final data.</p><p></p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NY23Nowvs08.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NY23Nowvs08.php','popup','width=768,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NY23Nowvs08-thumb-600x600.png" width="600" height="600" alt="NY23Nowvs08.png" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;" /></a></span><p></p><div>Finally, the dynamics of both NJ and NY23 were pretty stable. Despite differences in reporting times from various counties, the margins held pretty constant through the evening.</div><div><br /></div><div><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NJDynamic.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NJDynamic.php','popup','width=1024,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NJDynamic-thumb-600x450.png" width="600" height="450" alt="NJDynamic.PNG" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;" /></a></span></div><div><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NY23Dynamic.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NY23Dynamic.php','popup','width=1024,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NY23Dynamic-thumb-600x450.png" width="600" height="450" alt="NY23Dynamic.PNG" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;" /></a></span></div><div><br /></div><div>Since today wasn't exciting enough, President Obama will be in Madison tomorrow, so my day will be pretty well taken up with teaching in the morning and news coverage the rest of the day. I'll leave it to Mark and colleagues to provide the wisdom tomorrow. Happy Election Day Post.</div><div><br /></div>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:47:32 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>NY23 Siena Poll Again: Some Hope for Each Side</title>
         <author>charles&#64;politicalarithmetik&#46;com (Charles Franklin)</author>
         <description>by Charles Franklin<![CDATA[<span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><br /><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NY23a.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NY23a.php','popup','width=768,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NY23a-thumb-600x600.png" width="600" height="600" alt="NY23a.png" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;" /></a></span><div>The new Siena College poll of NY-23 has mixed news for both parties now that Scozzafava has suspended her campaign. The key question is how does her vote split between Owens and Hoffman. (And keep in mind she'll still be on the ballot, so some will vote for her anyway, and we have no idea how many that will be.)</div><div><br /></div><div>Thanks to Siena for releasing cross tabs which allow us a much better look into the data. Here's hoping this practice becomes more widespread.</div><div><br /></div><div>First, just as they are tied in vote, Owens and Hoffman are tied in favorable/unfavorable views. Owens registers 40/35/24 fav/unfav/dk, while Hoffman is at 41/37/22. Scozzafava has suffered from the campaign, with a poor 29/51/20 showing.</div><div><br /></div><div>So while the campaign has been intense, Dede has been the primary victim, with Owens and Hoffman emerging at this point with essentially identical favorability profiles.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>The next question is how do Scozzafava voters feel about Owens and Hoffman? The answer is pretty much the same, and not very positive.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NY23b.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NY23b.php','popup','width=768,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NY23b-thumb-600x600.png" width="600" height="600" alt="NY23b.png" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;" /></a>Owens is 19% Fav, 50% Unfav and 32% DK. For Hoffman it is 15%, 57% and 28%. &nbsp;That's a tiny edge to Owens, but it is so small and flies against party identification that it is hard to see this as better than a wash. Certainly it doesn't look like Scozzafava voters will see Owens as a highly desirable second choice, but at best a poor second.</span></div><div><br /></div><div>The undecided voters (9% of the sample) are also evenly split in the favs towards Owens and Hoffman, with identical 24% favs, and a 24% unfav for Owens to a 20% unfav for Hoffman. As befits undecideds, mostly they don't have an opinion: 52% DK for Owens, 56% dk for Hoffman.</div><div><br /></div><div>Conclusion: probably remains an even split, based on these results.</div><div><br /></div><div>What about Party Identification? Here is some bad news for Owens. He's losing 25% of the Democratic voters, versus only a 13% defection rate among Republicans.</div><div><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NY23c.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NY23c.php','popup','width=768,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NY23c-thumb-600x600.png" width="600" height="600" alt="NY23c.png" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;" /></a></span></div><div>Fully 14% of Dems say they will vote for the Conservative Hoffman. Another 11% were going for Scozzafava. Even if you think all those Scozzafava Dems come back to Owens, the party is not as unified as it needs to be.</div><div><br /></div><div>Independents are also leaning Hoffman by 40-35, with only 15% supporting Scozzafava up for grabs.</div><div><br /></div><div>Ironically, it may be the 29% of Republicans (45% of the Siena sample of likely voters) who could be attracted to Owens. They've by definition resisted Hoffman, but now with the party united behind him, it seems unlikely Owens can capture a disproportionate share of these Republicans who resisted the Conservative's siren song.</div><div><br /></div><div>For Owens to make gains here, he has to see Dems coming home overwhelmingly from Scozzafava (not unreasonable) and to see a lower defection rate for Hoffman (somewhat harder to do.) &nbsp;And he also has to hope that the Scozzafava Republicans are so upset with Hoffman that they defect to Owens (but we just saw above that Scozzafava voters generally split their affections evenly. We don't know how Scozzafava Reps specifically feel about Owens and Hoffman, so perhaps that group breaks more but given the power of party id, it seems unlikely to be especially fertile territory for Owens.)</div><div><br /></div><div>It is the combination of these results that led me to say the Siena poll is bad news for Owens in my earlier "quick post". Now the logic is better laid out. It isn't that this looks like terrible news, but there isn't much good news in it either. A toss up remains a tossup, but with some partisan forces acting mostly in Hoffman's favor rather than Owens'.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Finally, there is one interesting note that COULD be a plus for Owens. Scozzafava and undecided voters are MUCH more like Owens supporters than Hoffman on one key point: They like President Obama quite a lot:</div><div><br /></div><div><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NY23d1.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NY23d1.php','popup','width=768,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/NY23d-thumb-600x600.png" width="600" height="600" alt="NY23d.png" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;" /></a></span></div><div>If this race were a referendum on Obama, then the Hoffman voters look just like they should-- angry anti-Obama folks, while the Scozzafava and undecided look a lot more positive to Obama, and hence potentially attractive Democratic voters.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Perhaps the best move Owens can make in the last three days is to drape himself in the cloak of Obama, hoping to bring home those wavering 25% of Dems, and use this favorable view of Obama among Scozzafava and undecided to bring in the margin of victory. &nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Conversely, if Hoffman wants to win the Scozzafava and undecided, he should probably push Republican &nbsp;loyalty more, and opposition (especially angry opposition) to the president less. He's already won over the voters with pitchforks and tea bags. He needs a strategy to close the deal with Reps and others who don't actually despise the president. (Recall the district went 52-47 for Obama.)&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>So after all that, it still looks like a tossup on the two simplest most direct measures: current vote choice and favorability. When we try to parse the Scozzafava voters, they mostly look like a tossup, with at most a sliver of extra support for Owens. But at most a sliver.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Owens must win back defecting Dems to have a chance. And some nationalization of the race even at this late date might help more than emphasizing partisanship alone. The former can both bring home Dems and win over some Scozzafava support.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>What the data don't address is how much the Republican party (and its national leadership) now united behind Hoffman can swing the majority of Scozzafava voters.</div><div><br /></div><div>Bottom line is this will be fun on Tuesday night.</div><div><br /></div><div>(Special thanks to Siena's Steven Greenberg and Don Levy for getting me some extra detail on what is surely a very busy day for them.)</div>]]></description>
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         <author>charles&#64;politicalarithmetik&#46;com (Charles Franklin)</author>
         <description>by Charles Franklin<![CDATA[<p><strong>Updated</strong>: I've now posted a less hasty look at the data. Change "bad news" to "mixed news". There is some good and some bad for both Owens and Hoffman. Still a tossup is the best characterization. <a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/ny23_siena_poll_again_some_hop.php">The new post is here</a>. I stand by the bad news mentioned here: Owens is not doing well among independents, and the new post shows Dems are defecting at 25%. So the headline here doesn't need to change. On the other hand, there are some weaknesses for Hoffman (and opportunities for Owens) among the Scozzafava voters, which I take up in the new post. ---charles</p>

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This is a quick note on the new Siena poll in light of Scozzafava dropping out.</p>

<p>Can Owens pick up from Scozzafava supporters? Not so likely given these poll results.</p>

<p>Owens Fav/Unfav among Scozzafava suppporters: 19/50<br />
Hoffman Fav/Unfav among Scozzafava supporters: 15/57</p>

<p>Looks like a wash with many likely to skip the choice of two disliked alternatives.</p>

<p>And the worse news for Owens is among independents:</p>

<p>Ind. Fav/Unfav Owens: 39/47<br />
Ind. Fav/Unfav Hoffman: 47/33</p>

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<p>BREAKING: Scozzafava suspends campaign. Divided party now unites. Demonstrates powerful appeal of right in Rep pty. What remains to be seen is if this appeal can win the general election. Amy Walters had a good catch at Hotline: Hoffman leading among independents. Thats good news for him. But other unknown is how Scozzafava's 20% split now. Are they loyal Reps or were they looking for more progressive issues and hence not likely to back Hoffman?  With all attention on Rep split, has Owens given the district reason to back the Dem over a conservative? Fun!</p> <p>NY-23 is the poster child for the conservative insurgency in Republican politics. What looked a few weeks ago to be  a splintered party in NY-23 is looking more and more like a consensus developing in favor of the conservative candidate. If Scozzafava continues to collapse, Democrat Owens will no longer enjoy a fractured opposition but a united one. </p>

<p>Mark has posted extensively on the problem of polling in NY-23, so be sure to see his comprehensive <a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/ny23_watch_tuesday.php">post here</a>.  There are many problems with polling in this race, especially on the turnout side.</p>

<p>But setting those concerns aside for the moment, Hoffman's surge shows that an insurgency can succeed in winning over (so far) well over half of Republican voters. The string of Hoffman endorsements from Palin, Pawlenty, Pataki and others shows how seriously Republican leaders are taking conservative insurgents. </p>

<p>Given substantial investments in the NY-23 race by both party and independent groups, this might be seen as the best case for insurgents against the party establishment.  The converse is that if Owens pulls it out,  NY-23 will be a symbol of party fratricide. And if Scozzafava's support collapses, it will be a message of the power of party unity around conservative nominees.</p>

<p>I commented on this topic in a recent Christian Science Monitor <a href="http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/10/17/tea-party-insurgency-marches-into-key-states/">story here</a>, and spent a pleasant hour this morning discussing this and other insurgent challenges on Wisconsin Public Radio's Joy Cardine show. The <a href="http://clipcast.wpr.org:8080/ramgen/wpr/jca/jca091030c.rm">audio is available here</a>. At the time of CSM interview, Hoffman had not yet surged, something we talk about in the audio link.</p>]]></description>
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         <title>Senate 2010 Receipts, Expenditures and Cash</title>
         <author>charles&#64;politicalarithmetik&#46;com (Charles Franklin)</author>
         <description>by Charles Franklin<![CDATA[<span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/SenRecExp3Q.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/SenRecExp3Q.php','popup','width=768,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/SenRecExp3Q-thumb-600x600.png" alt="SenRecExp3Q.png" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block;" width="600" height="600" /></a></span><div>The <a href="http://www.nationaljournal.com/hotline/po_20091019_6098.php">Hotline gave us a summary</a> of the 3rd quarter FEC reports for 2010 Senate candidates. Here I offer two views of the races. The plot above shows receipts against expenditures for the 3rd quarter. Above the diagonal line means more receipts than expenditures, below the line and you have a bad burn rate.</div><div><br /></div><div>Solid dots are incumbents, open circles are non-incumbents. Blue for Dems, red for Reps (surprise!) &nbsp;Open a second browser window to use the <a href="http://www.nationaljournal.com/hotline/po_20091019_6098.php">table at Hotline</a> to see who's who in the charts. (You do have two monitors, right? Let's use them!)</div><div><br /></div><div>The chart below shows receipts against cash on hand. Here we see the built up advantages most incumbents enjoy regardless of current receipts.</div><div><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/SenRecCOH3Q.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/SenRecCOH3Q.php','popup','width=768,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/SenRecCOH3Q-thumb-600x600.png" alt="SenRecCOH3Q.png" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block;" width="600" height="600" /></a></span></div><div>The ideal view is the chart below, combining the two above. It is formatted for a screen 1440 pixels wide and probably won't be very clear on smaller screens. But if you can view it full screen you can read across the two charts-- see the same level of receipts vertically and how that compares to expenditures and cash on hand horizontally. Click the chart to see it full size---it is too small to read in our standard window width.</div><div><br /></div><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/SenRecExpCoh.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/SenRecExpCoh.php','popup','width=1440,height=720,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/SenRecExpCoh-thumb-600x300.png" alt="SenRecExpCoh.png" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block;" width="600" height="300" /></a></span><div>&nbsp;Let's take a look at the races Charlie Cook at the <a href="http://www.cookpolitical.com/charts/senate/raceratings_2009-10-06_11-20-18.php">Cook Political Report rates as tossups</a>.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Key trick to reading the charts: Look for blue and red points close together and towards the upper right. Those are closely competitive candidates with significant resources. &nbsp;Where you see open circles of the same color close together, you see potential competitive primaries.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>The Connecticut race is shaping up as a huge big money race. Three Republicans have over $1 million cash on hand and incumbent Democrat Chris Dodd has only $2 million in the bank, a small advantage for an incumbent. Ex-WWE CEO Linda McMahon and Ex Ambassador Thomas Foley both have large loan investments in their campaigns, while ex-Rep. Rob Simmons is relatively debt free and raising substantial amounts from others. Dodd raised less than McMahon or Simmons, and has a high burn rate as well. This race looks like the smallest incumbent financial advantage around, either by receipts or by cash on hand.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, whose polls have been shaky, has a competitive opponent in "Wall Street Banker" John Chachas who has pumped $1 million into his race, leaving a big debt but making his receipts competitive with Reid's $2 million. But now shift your gaze to the cash on hand chart and you see Reid's gigantic advantage in money in the bank, where he holds almost $9 million to Chachas' $1.3M. (The next strongest Republican is ex-UNLV basketball player Danny Tarkanian with just barely a quarter million raised and less than that in the bank.) Reid may be weak in the polls, but unless a large infusion of Republican donations start flowing into Nevada, Reid will be able to outspend any opponent. (Newly announced ex-NV GOP chair Sue Lowden won't file her first report until January.) &nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>In Illinois the open seat of Roland Burris is very competitive. Rep. Mark Kirk (R-10th) has the Republican primary all to himself in terms of money advantage, with no other Republican raising even 1% of Kirk's take in the 3rd quarter. But the Democratic race is much more balanced. The clustering of open circles in both plots shows that no Dem enjoys a big money advantage. State Treasurer Alexi Giannoulias ($1.1M raised, $2.4M cash) has a modest advantage but self-financed candidate lawyer Jacob Meister (giving himself a cool $1M) and ex-Chicago Inspector General David Hoffman (who loaned himself $500k) have pumped considerable money into their campaigns. The other serious contender, Chicago Urban League Pres. Cheryle Robinson Jackson, raised just $367k with $318k in the bank.</div><div><br /></div><div>Kentucky's open Republican seat has real competition in both parties. Republicans Rand Paul (son of Ron) and Sec. State Trey Grayson are evenly matched, as are Democrats Atty. Gen. &nbsp;Jack Conway and Lt. Gov. Dan Mongiardo. (Conway didn't report on expenditures, so is missing from the expenditures chart but not from the cash on hand chart.) This state looks like two competitive primaries as well as a competitive general.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>In Missouri's open Republican seat, each party has a clear front runner and those two are evenly matched so far in the money race. Dem Sec. State Robin Carnahan raised $1.1M with $1.8M cash while Rep. Roy Blunt (R-7th) brought in $1.3M with $2.3M cash. Carnahan has a small lead in recent polls. Close enough for another barn burner in the Show Me state.</div><div><br /></div><div>In New Hampshire Republican ex-Atty. Gen. Kelly Ayotte outraised Democrat Rep. Paul Hodes (D-2nd) but Hodes has more in the bank. Polls show a tossup with Ayotte holding a slight edge. Should stay competitive.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>Ohio's ex-OMB Dir. and US. Rep. Rob Portman is running away with the Republican money, and has a significant advantage over Democrat Lt. Gov. Lee Fisher, by 2-1 in receipts and over 3-1 in cash. (Dem Sec. State Jennifer Brunner failed to provide data on her financial status but said she raised less than $228k brought in for the 2nd quarter.) Despite trailing in money, Fisher has a modest lead in polling as of September. Dem money needs to open up there to stay competitive.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>The loss of incumbent Republican Kay Bailey Hutchison to the governors race has so far left Republican contenders trailing in the money race. &nbsp;Rep. Joe Barton (R-6th), who has not announced an official entry into the race but expressed "interest", &nbsp;is best off, with half a million raised in the 3rd quarter and $1.7M in the bank. In second place for the GOP is ex-Sec. State Roger Williams, with $336k raised, and $863k cash. &nbsp;But both Democrats have double that in cash and both out-raised Barton in the quarter. &nbsp;Houston Mayor Bill White has an advantage on the Dem side (including 1/3 in self-financing) over Ex-Comp. John Sharp, but it could still be a competitive primary as far as money goes.&nbsp;(Sharp failed to supply expenditures so it missing from that chart.)&nbsp;Others may still enter the race and if Hutchison resigns there could be a May 2010 special election just to add to the fun.</div><div><br /></div><div>Of the races Cook rates as "leans" rather than tossups, Colorado is looking better for Democrats worried that first term appointee Michael Bennet will have a struggle to hold the seat. So far he is well ahead in both receipts and cash over several Republican contenders, the strongest of whom, ex-LG Jane Norton raised half as much in the quarter and has only one-fifth as much in the bank. Still, Bennet has not polled well, so Rep money coming in could make a difference here.</div><div><br /></div><div>The Pennsylvania race looks very interesting, with ex-Rep. and Club for Growth ex-Pres Pat Toomey dominating the Republican primary contest with $1.6M raised, $1.8M cash. Rep. Joe Sestak's (D-7th) intra-party challenge to newly converted Democratic incumbent Arlen Specter is so far uneven in money, with Specter both raising and banking quite a bit more. Sestak has a substantial $4.7M in cash, but Specter has $8.7. With that kind of money available for a primary it will be interesting to see how damaged the winner of the Democratic primary will be as they enter the general against a well-funded Toomey.</div><div><br /></div><div>The Florida Republican primary between Gov. Charlie Crist and ex-FL House Speaker Marco Rubio is so far continuing to advantage Crist. Crist raised 2.5 times as much and has 6 times as much in cash. Also, Rubio's cash burn rate has been high, spending more than Crist in the quarter while taking in so much less. On the Dem side, Rep. Kendrick Meek (D-17th) is far behind Crist with $772k raised and $2.7M in cash. North Miami Mayor Kevin Burns raised just $28k in the 2nd quarter, and hasn't filed a 3rd quarter report.</div><div><br /></div><div>Of the "likely" races in Cook's rating, North Carolina's incumbent Republican Richard Burr has a strong money advantage. And Democratic incumbent Blanche Lincoln in Arkansas has yet to see a Republican challenger closing in on money, though State Sen. Gilbert Baker stands out as the one potentially competitive candidate though trailing in cash by 4-1.</div><div><br /></div><div>We should close noting that money alone doesn't win. Challengers need enough to compete but they don't have to match vulnerable incumbents. These data are most interesting for helping show which non-incumbents are bringing in support at levels that would give them enough to compete, in either open or incumbent seats.&nbsp;</div>]]></description>
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         <author>charles&#64;politicalarithmetik&#46;com (Charles Franklin)</author>
         <description>by Charles Franklin<![CDATA[<span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/UnemploymentAndDow.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/UnemploymentAndDow.php','popup','width=648,height=648,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/UnemploymentAndDow-thumb-600x600.png" width="600" height="600" alt="UnemploymentAndDow.png" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;" /></a></span><div>A bit off our usual polling focus, but <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/17/business/17nocera.html?_r=1&amp;8dpc">Joe Nocera has a nice article</a> in the New York Times Friday. It reviews the recently published depression diary of Benjamin Roth, giving &nbsp;a contemporary account of what it was like. Nocera does a great job of using the diary as a vehicle to talk about the policy issues of that era and ties them to our current issues.</div><div><br /></div><div>This post is an illustration for his text. The fall, then rise, of unemployment, and the rebound then second drop of the stock market in the 1937-38 period are an implicit warning for our current condition as Nocera discusses.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>And here is our current unemployment condition, in states and nationally. Click the chart for a full size version.</div><div><br /></div><div><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/unempall.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/unempall.php','popup','width=1024,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/unempall-thumb-600x450.png" width="600" height="450" alt="unempall.png" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;" /></a></span></div><div><br /></div><div><b>ADDENDUM 10/18/09:</b>&nbsp;Mark Sadowski posted a great comment below on the controversy over which measures of unemployment should be used to examine the Depression and New Deal era. &nbsp;This is a debate that has had a flourish of renewed interest as some have argued that the New Deal had little effect on unemployment. Mark's comment below provides a great overview of these issues with pointers to the relevant literature.&nbsp;</div><div><br /></div><div>For comparison, here is another version of the chart, with the original and revised data plotted. While the difference may matter for some purposes, as an illustration of Nocera's article it is the timing of shifts that matters, and those shifts are closely parallel.</div><div><br /></div><div><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/UnemploymentAndDowRev.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/UnemploymentAndDowRev.php','popup','width=768,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/UnemploymentAndDowRev-thumb-600x600.png" width="600" height="600" alt="UnemploymentAndDowRev.png" class="mt-image-center" style="text-align: center; display: block; margin: 0 auto 20px;" /></a></span></div><div><br /></div>]]></description>
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         <title>The Afghan Dilemma</title>
         <author>charles&#64;politicalarithmetik&#46;com (Charles Franklin)</author>
         <description>by Charles Franklin<![CDATA[<span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/ObamaJobAreas.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/ObamaJobAreas.php','popup','width=1024,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/ObamaJobAreas-thumb-600x450.png" alt="ObamaJobAreas.png" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block;" height="450" width="600" /></a></span>

<p>The end of the summer saw some rebounding of President Obama's domestic approval ratings, and his overall job approval. &nbsp;But it is now the foreign front that poses the greatest potential to damage the president's approval ratings. Afghanistan looms large.</p>

<p>Domestically, things have turned in Obama's favor. After falling through much of the spring and summer, support for Obama's handling of health care reform has taken a noticeable upturn since mid-August. Approval of his handling of the economy is flat or slightly up, and his overall job rating has risen 3 points or so since it's low point at the end of August. Even his worst approval rating, on handling the deficit, has stopped declining, though it remains below 40%.</p>

<p>But the problem is now with foreign policy matters and most specifically with Afghanistan. &nbsp;Through the spring, even as he increased troop levels in Afghanistan, Obama enjoyed an approval rating on that war of near 60%. &nbsp;But those ratings have taken a sharp dive over the last four months, even as domestic issue approval rebounded. Since June, approval of his handling of Afghanistan has fallen some 17 points, from about 60% to about 43%.</p>

<p>During much of the summer conversation focused on the damage a falling health care approval was doing to Obama's overall job ratings. Now the attention should turn to the potential damage of &nbsp;whatever decision he makes about how to wage the Afghan war. Increasing troop levels, and therefore casualties, will not be popular among progressives in his own party, and will surely not win back any Republican support. But refusing to increase commitments there is likely to result in little visible improvement while maintaining American targets, and therefore casualties. While the president may have succeeded in bringing back some support for his domestic agenda, that was an easier sell within his party than will be the case with Afghanistan. The driving mechanism with Afghanistan is going to be casualties and perceptions of progress or lack thereof plus a base of ideological opposition to the war among Democrats.</p>

<p>The declining approval on Afghanistan has also begun to be reflected in declines in approval of his handling of foreign policy in general. (Handling of Iraq and Iran have relatively few recent polls, so are omitted from the figure.) While foreign policy approval has been a strength, generally running higher than overall job approval, that may not be the case much longer.</p>

<p>If the military decisions are daunting either way, the political implications are at least as difficult. A Democrat committing more troops to a war now eight years old, with troops stressed from repeated deployments, is going to be a hard, perhaps impossible, sell to his partisans. But with Republican support now down in single digits, the president can look for support only from Democrats and some independents. Those groups are quite reticent to support an escalation.</p>]]></description>
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         <author>charles&#64;politicalarithmetik&#46;com (Charles Franklin)</author>
         <description>by Charles Franklin<![CDATA[<p>PollsAndVotes Video offers a review of the state of polling and politics as of early October. The video is an exclusive of "Office Hours with Ken Goldstein", which is a production of the University of Wisconsin and is broadcast on the Big Ten Network.</p>

<p>I talk about Obama, the economy, health care reform and the critical support for Blue Dog Democrats who may hold the fate of Obama's legislative agenda in their hands. &nbsp;Alas, no charts this time.</p>

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         <author>charles&#64;politicalarithmetik&#46;com (Charles Franklin)</author>
         <description>by Charles Franklin<![CDATA[<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/HCReformStatic.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/HCReformStatic.php','popup','width=1024,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/HCReformStatic-thumb-600x450.png" alt="HCReformStatic.png" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block;" width="600" height="450" /></a></span></p>

<p>The trend in opinion on health care reform has been a bit tricky of late. After a long and substantial rise of opposition, and an equally long but less sizable decline in support, we came to August, the month for the strange in politics. This year was stranger than most with loud and angry town halls, fearful politicians reluctant to meet constituents, cable news of gun toting demonstrators, an extended presidential vacation and the death of an icon. And what did all the rancor produce? Apparently, the sound and fury signified, surprisingly, a flattening of the trends in opinion. Opposition slowed its rise (not accelerated), and support halted its fall and by the second week of August, began a modest rise. And that before the president spoke to the joint session of Congress.</p>

<p>The picture is complex in the details, but essentially unanimous in the major points. Let me lay the details out a bit.</p>

<p>The chart above shows all the trend lines we might estimate for our health care questions, using 65 different levels of sensitivity for the smoothing. At one end, we smooth little and get a very (overly) sensitive fit. At the opposite end we smooth a lot and get a quite insensitive trend. In between is our standard estimator. The overlapping lines above make clear that the big picture is a common pattern over all 65 different degrees of sensitivity: A rise, then a flattening of opposition, and a smaller fall then a rise in support. Off to the right, you can see "bar codes" showing all the different possible current trend estimates from each of the 65 different levels of smoothing. The range of possible current trends is small, but there is a little overlap indicating some estimates may show support slightly ahead of opposition, though most show the opposite.</p>

<p>If you want to pick a fight, then you can pick a level of smoothing that is a little different from the others in some details. The chart below is the most sensitive estimator, one that is quite likely to chase noise, but which also picks up short term changes.</p>

<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/HRC35.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/HRC35.php','popup','width=1024,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/HRC35-thumb-600x450.png" alt="HRC35.png" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block;" width="600" height="450" /></a></span></p>

<p>Now you can see a post-speech spike in support, and a smaller drop in opposition. Both are sharp, but both also show the beginnings of a reversion in the latest polls, with support beginning to dip and opposition steady or slightly rising. If you believe this estimator, then the speech mattered, but wasn't a game changer because the short term gain for Obama has now begun to reverse.</p>

<p>Or, you could use a still sensitive but not quite so erratic estimator:</p>

<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/HCR50.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/HCR50.php','popup','width=1024,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/HCR50-thumb-600x450.png" alt="HCR50.png" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block;" width="600" height="450" /></a></span></p>

<p>And, Aha! the speech changed everything and the trend is now declining opposition and rising support! Well, maybe. But this rests on being sensitive enough to pick up the speech effect, but not so sensitive as to turn down based on those very latest polls.</p>

<p>Or you could use our standard estimator, which is "sensitive enough" but which tries not to chase outliers. It needs several polls to convince it that the polling trend has really changed.</p>

<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/HCR70.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/HCR70.php','popup','width=1024,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/HCR70-thumb-600x450.png" alt="HCR70.png" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block;" width="600" height="450" /></a></span></p>

<p>Here we see an upturn, probably driven by the speech, but the blue line hasn't caught the red line yet.</p>

<p>If you compare the red line in the chart above, with the red line in our interactive <a href="http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/healthplan.php">chart </a>today, you'll see a bug. For reasons not yet clear, the interactive chart is producing a straight line for the opposition trend despite the fact that our standard estimator is really the red line above. Mark mentioned this mysterious bug in a <a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/whats_up_in_njand_with_our_cha.php">previous post here</a>. We continue to hunt it and hope for a quick fix. (For the really nerdy, we have to stabilize the line when few polls are available, and sometimes it seems the "stabilizers" kick in when they shouldn't. Probably due to the very first poll which is far from the rest. Take it out of the interactive chart with the filter option, removing HealthDay/Harris, and you get estimates much closer to the standard trend above.) </p>

<p>Notice that the blue line above and the corresponding black line in our interactive chart are very similar. So the interactive chart is doing the right thing with one line but not with the other. The interactive chart overshoots putting opposition at 49.9% while my estimate above is 48.5%. Meanwhile support is 45.4% on the interactive chart and 45.8% here.</p>

<p>Finally, what if we intentionally over-smooth-- ignoring the day-to-day noise for the long term "fundamentals" trend:</p>

<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/HCR99.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/HCR99.php','popup','width=1024,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/HCR99-thumb-600x450.png" alt="HCR99.png" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block;" width="600" height="450" /></a></span></p>

<p>The same basic story is apparent. Opposition has grown but is now slowed to a near halt. Support reversed its decline sometime in August and has begun an upturn.</p>

<p>And my big point is that this is essentially the picture you see in all these different trend estimates. The details are slightly different. A bump here and a drop there, and the precise estimates of support and opposition differ by as much as 2 points up or down. But the big picture is that opposition ramped up significantly through June or July but has recently slowed or stopped. Support fell less precipitously but has been working back up for a month (despite or perhaps because of the circus coverage in August.) We could pick a chart to fight over the details, but we shouldn't. It is the big picture of public opinion that is important here. Within a couple of points, opinion is evenly divided. The White House has gained a bit of momentum, but will be challenged to lower the opposition numbers, not just raise the support numbers.</p>

<p>Here is a chart of how the current trend estimates depend on the degree of smoothing. The range of opposition is 47-49 and the range of support is a little wider, 45-49.</p>

<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/Sensitivity.php" onclick="window.open('http://www.pollster.com/blogs/Sensitivity.php','popup','width=512,height=768,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/Sensitivity-thumb-600x900.png" alt="Sensitivity.png" class="mt-image-center" style="margin: 0pt auto 20px; text-align: center; display: block;" width="600" height="900" /></a></span></p>]]></description>
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